There Is ZERO Benefit For A Man In Marriage. 3 Popular Marriage Myths Debunked!
Mar 10th, 2007 by Ugg
In today’s society there is no reason for a man to get married. Yet year after year, more of the people I know end up getting married. However, if that was the case, I’d re-evaluate my position. The reason I become so wary of these new marriages is not only because these men are statistically in the worst possible age group regarding their candidacy for divorce, but because the number one reason for WHY, is always the same:
Well, we’ve been together for a while and it’s the next step. She really wants to get married.
Not joking. At all. Look, I understand that after spending years with someone, the expectation of marriage is bound to come up. We’ve been raised by a society that has long told us that marriage is just what you do. Not only because you love someone - but because it’s RIGHT. Women have a ticking biological and physical clock. They know that as they get older, they become less attractive to the men that pose as good marriage candidates. They also know that as they age, their bodies will become less successful at carrying a child to term.
Men however, are complete pussies. Simply because a woman nags enough, they’re ready to make one of the largest financial mistakes of their lives. In other words, women have something to gain. Men, simply put, do not.
Now don’t get me wrong, there are a few reasons that always pop up during this debate, so I’ll go ahead and debunk the ones we hear the most:
Reason One: But Two Incomes Is Better Than One!
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Yes, you are right. For example:
“For married couples there is a benefit for wealth. In terms of money, a two-parent household is going to have more,” states the author of An American Dilemma Revisited: Race Relations In A Changing World. “If you’re making $80,000 a year and you have a spouse who’s making $50,000 a year, $130,000 is going to go a lot further than that 80 or that 50. What [married couples] are able to do is to accumulate wealth together.”
However, when you have children, what happens when your wife has to stay home to take care of the kids? Can you blame her for wanting to be there instead of a daycare with a bunch of strangers? It’s very easy to look at the positive side. However, when finances strain and you’re the one waking early to go to work while also trying to put in your share around the house, sometimes resentment can start to grow. Why can’t you stay at home? Why can’t she find a job? Why does she get to stay home and play with the kid(s) all day?
The truth is that dual incomes are fantastic, but eventually you may be relegated to a single income. If this is one of your primary reasons for getting married, you may want to re-think things. Additionally, most men see “taking care of her” as simply paying for her cost of living. Paying her share of the rent, for her car, etc. is one thing. But when, as a non-working mother, she wants things that you don’t see necessary for a mother, but instead items of desire for a woman, your desire to give that money may definitely wane.
Lastly, it’s easy to judge when you’re not the one in the hotseat. When the style of living you’ve become accustomed to deteriorates, the man may often find himself faced with the blame for not making enough. Maybe it’s just a jab in passing, or maybe you find yourself suddenly compared to a single man who is able to afford nicer things than you. Reminding her that you too could afford that if you didn’t have to pick up her burden is probably not the wisest thing to do.
Reason Two: But I Want To Have Kids! (Someday)
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And? You can have kids without being married. As a matter of fact, I highly recommend it! The reason I recommend it is that people are going to have kids, it’s a given. Parenting with someone you’re with can sometimes be an eye opener. Maybe she isn’t as detailed as you. Maybe the neat and clean woman you’ve come to love has vanished as a result of having to do more than pickup after adults?
There are lot of ifs, but one of the biggest issues with parents is that children become a burden because they require around the clock attention and care. This is a beautiful burden and burdens do not have to be bad things, but often times parents may find that they feel that they no longer receive attention anymore. Perhaps she just needs to get out with her friends more often, leaving you at home with the kids. You’ve worked hard, you got to go out to go to work, but she’s been at home all day. She deserves or is entitled to do such.
That can start to put pressure on a marriage. Just because you’re at work paying the bills, doesn’t mean that you’re having fun or doing what you’d rather be doing. Often times this gets lost in the communication. I’ve seen many cases where this breeds some sort of disdain for the other partner. Other men or women start to become attractive because they don’t make you feel the same way you feel around your partner. However, the reason for this isn’t because those people are better people. They just simply don’t have to have “those conversations” with you about finances or family.
Children deserve to grow up in a stable home. As such, I always tell new parents to put off a potential marriage for a while. If you aren’t right for each other, getting married won’t fix that. And I seriously doubt the child will enjoy the fun of a divorce. Especially for men, if you haven’t achieved what you wanted to achieve (degree, promotion, whatever) yet, hold off on a marriage until you do. Having children should never be a reason for getting married. A reason to be a great parent, sure. But just because you love them doesn’t mean that you should try to love someone else the same way.
Reason Three: But I Want Someone To Love! I Don’t Want To Be Lonely! She Takes Care Of Me!
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If you have problems being alone, or lonely - stop looking at a relationship to fix that. You’re a moron and will only find yourself in a relationship that enables you further. A successful relationship involves two grounded people who are at peace with themselves, their strengths, and their weaknesses. If you’re feeling excessively lonely, it’s likely that it’s not NOT having a partner, but rather that something is off-kilter in your life. Do you work too much? Are you out of shape?
You’ll no doubt find that by fixing the problems you have with yourself, you’ll be a much happier person and people like other happy people.
If you’re marrying because someone takes good care of you, picks up after you, cooks for you… Get a maid - it’s cheaper! Remember, statistics show that men receive significantly less sex after marriage. In the long run, a maid really WOULD be cheaper - and less sexually frustrating. If it’s sex that you’re after… well marriage is NOT going to help that one.
And In The End?
Statistically, men make more than women, and thus I use that for most of the above generalizations. Based off this statistic, men have MORE to LOSE from marriage than women do. Men need sex like they need oxygen. Sex is one of the primary factors people get married in the first place. Many men go into it thinking sex will be like this FOREVER! However when the frustration kicks in, as children complicate the relationship, and as other stressors start to creep in, one thing happens - DIVORCE.
In some states, a man can not only lose a significant part of his paycheck for spousal support, but even his potential for FUTURE EARNINGS! Money he hasn’t even MADE YET! In some other states, a woman can screw her new boy toy on the floor of the house you pay for, AND take half. You got screwed TWICE! The truth is that the new laws have made marriage hard. Where there used to be a reason to get married, now all men see are reasons NOT to get married. We’ve finally reached the point where you have more to LOSE from marriage than you have to GAIN from it - from a man’s perspective.
But What If She Is Willing To Sign A Pre-Nup?
Prenuptial agreements are NOT iron-clad. And on top of that, prenups only cover the finances. If the relationship ends, you get this, she gets that, etc. So without a pre-nup, you promise to her, the rightful share of your assets and wealth that the state sees fit to give. With a prenup, you just modify the “sees fit to give” part.
The problem is that sure she can sign a prenup to show you she doesn’t want your money. But where is the contract saying that she won’t gain weight? Or that she won’t lose interest in a sexually healthy and adventurous relationship? Or that she won’t take you for granted and become the nagging wife we see so often in comics and television?
Not only can your wife do all of the above, but without or even sometimes WITH a prenup she can still get your money? There simply is no protection in a marriage for man to be certain he’ll keep getting what made him fall in love with his woman in the first place.
Not Anti-MARRIAGE… Anti-DIVORCE
It’s easy for me to be seen as anti-marriage. I can definitely see how I appear that way. However, I’m really anti-DIVORCE. Marriage is a serious issue that should be the final layer of support on a building that is already sufficiently grounded. What does that mean? I mean that a relationship should already be successful for MANY years before marriage is even talked about seriously. This wasn’t the case in the “good old days”, but the fact is that because divorces are so easy to get - marriages should be HARDER to get.
The key to a happy family life and a successful marriage are two well-grounded adults who are in love and who know each other like the back of their hand. Divorce typically comes about a few years after the marriage when the sex deteriorates, or the gap between the couple widens, or after kids are introduced.
If more couples took the time to spend 5 or 10 years unmarried but living together, and if marriage was treated as a final celebration of that time together, I’d probably support it. But marriages where women can cheat and still take half of a man’s wealth (or visa-versa if the girl makes more), will continue to put a final nail in the coffin holding what marriage used to be.
After 5-10 years, I’d say you know the other person well enough. You know what the sex is like, you know how they react to adversity, you’ve likely gone through some financial hardships together. There are less surprises and less rosy-eyed, “Oh my God! Everything will be so different and wonderful after we sign a piece of paper!”. Additionally, you probably have a laundry list of things that bother you about the relationship as well. Those should be discussed with a professional before proceeding any further.
What do you think?
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Wow - I feel sorry for you. You must have been stuck with some real bitches to feel so burned. Poor bastard.
You know, because of my position on marriage, I get this a lot. Yet despite comments like yours.. I’ve still yet to hear any tangible benefit to marriage for a man?
For women, marriage to a man who makes more (which is the majority of cases), depending on the states, is the best financial move she can make. In California, women can even sue for money you haven’t even MADE yet.
I’m not anti-marriage. You just have to understand that the definition of “marriage” has changed drastically in the last 50 years. What used to be a union of two people for love, now has all sorts of legal and financial binds strapped to it.
There’s irrefutable statistical evidence that cohabiting couples have a significantly higher rate of divorce (in some studies as much as 4 times higher) once married than couples that did not live together first. You claim you’re “anti-divorce” not “anti-marriage”, but your advice of living together for 5-10yrs would suggest otherwise.
I’d buy that. The “5-10 years” guideline is just a loose thought, so don’t take that too seriously. The matter of importance is that people are obviously not getting to know each other well enough previous to marriage. Otherwise, married life wouldn’t be so different.. right?
If you have another suggestion that would result in less divorces and pointless marriages, feel free to suggest it
If I knew all the answers, I’d have a talk show!
what a moronic, self-absorbed, unloved person would try to rationalize with….
hi, i read your stuff, and yes, it makes some sense… but sometimes you meet someone with whom everything seems to connect, you have the same interests, theres great chemistry, friendship, love, commitment etc… and marriage is simply the next step toward a life-long highly mutual partnership.
So, so true! Marriage is merely a contract between you, the person you love, and the State. If you both love each other and feel compelled to be married - do it in the way it was intended. A contract between you, your spouse, and God…not the State. Exchange rings, have a celebration party, and most importantly….live together in a State that doesn’t recognize a “common law marriage”. Nevada is one such State.
This way you can fulfill your marriage fantasy and if things do not work out down the road, (statistically speaking; they will not), you can merely part as friends and go back to where you were before and “dissolve” your marriage before God….no State intervention and no complications.
My relationship is founded on this principle, and anyone who may disagree with it is simply in a marriage for “other” reasons. The rise of homosexual rights in this Country has given rise to benefits of “significant others” that were previously denied to unwed couples. If a heterosexual can offer those same types benefits without marriage, what would be the problem with this proposal?
I think a lot of people use the law as a form of backup, secretly hoping that fear of legal actions down the road will help ensure fidelity.
I know many folks would balk at this idea, but I think in today’s world it’s actually one of the healthiest ways to look at it. Worse comes to worse, if after a long while of “imaginary marriage”, if you then decide you’re still so in love you want to make it “legal”, there’s no big change in life, just in “status”.
Thanks for the great article Ugg. I’m not surprised to see you get flack, as I’m sure you’re accustomed to now
Rock on, and kudos to you for speaking the truth. I admire courage and you have it.
I am, alas, married. I like your statement that you’re not anti-marriage but anti-divorce, it shows thoughtfulness. However, let me go on the record as saying I have to say I’m anti-marriage, even. It is the only real mistake I’ve ever made in life. And it’s very hard to undo.
There’s a GREAT article, well researched, on the misery that awaits men in marriage:
http://www.martynemko.com/articles/men-as-beasts-burden_id1228
Ugg… I agree with you 100%. I just got out of my fourth engagement. This one was a four year relationship. It ended because she cheated (sexuallly and otherwise, in almost every case) with multiple different men, multiple times each.
Before her, I had a fiance who was faithful, but so lazy that she let herself not only get fat, but she lost any and all interest in me or the relationship unless I was doing something for her. Fixing her computer, helping her with schoolwork (which she constantly tried to get me to do for her), etc. That one ended because I finally got tired of playing Daddy to a spoiled little princess.
Before her there was another faithful one who went from being a beautiful woman to unbearably large in three short years… sorry, ladies, but we all have our ranges of what we can deal with, and FAT is not part of mine. I expect a woman I am going to invest in for the rest of her life to keep herself healthy.
And before her, there was the psycho who also cheated with a string of different guys behind my back. Interestingly enough, all four pushed for marriage around the one and two year marks, and didn’t really show their true colors until the second or third years.
What this has made me realize is… not only is “legal” marriage insane (what does law have to do with love?), but there is nothing but loss for the man, and on top of that… I also concluded… I don’t want an American woman! All of them I have dated or gotten involved with have been cheaters, liars, or lazy and fat. And they were all convinced they had the right to be.
Sure thing. I’m going to some other country, where women aren’t (quite so) crazy.
Thanks, Sex In The City.
Been together for 17 years,married 12 of those.Marriage is GREAT. Sex is fantastic & very regular. I still feel the same about my wife to when we first met & started dating. It`s certainly something people SHOULD DO if it`s truely the right person. My key advice is COMMUNICATION,UNDERSTANDING & Mostly KNOWING a Marriage is a 50/50 commitment (Unlike so many where one half does the majority of the work). Our proest told us after our vows were said “Well that`s the easy part,now to make your marriage work takes hard work.Even when your arguing to say I Love You,even through gritted teeth”. We have pretty much laughed at it though also followed it & as said 17years happily together. We still walk around like to love birds (people in the early part of a relationship) & for me,I Think that`s GREAT.
The women who would just stay at home and let their husbands work and bring home all the money are getting fewer in numbers. I am a female and I do agree people should not rush into things because divorce is to easy but to say men have nothing to gain from it and women do that is just bull.. Why is it that men are the only ones who have anything to lose and women don’t.
I would never have children unless I am married because when all is said and done it is the woman who is usually gets stuck with the children. To say you should try having children before marriage seems like a selfish comment that you would think a person who only cares about himself would say. Yes, divorce is messy and is not a fun event for anyone, but as you said children deserve to grow up in a stable home. I do not think that growing up in a home where the father figure can just up and leave as he please is very stable. I do agree just because someone gets pregnant is not a reason to get married but just a reminder even if things do not work out someone will still have to pay child support so I hate to tell you this that someone will still lose money for their earnings and future earnings.
Also I know plenty of men who let themselves go and get grossly over weight while their wives are still in shape, I guess from what you are saying they should of never married the person they loved because as people get older their metabolism slows down and they gain weight and their appearance changes. I am in alot better shape then my boy friend but I still love him anyways. He has gained about 25lbs since we began dating and I am still a size 0 and weigh 110lbs which is about 20lbs lower then the target weight for someone my height.
How is it that men seem to think they need sex more then women do, come on give me a break women need/want it just as much as men do and they also get bored with their partners just as often. If men are so bored with their sex lives just think about how bored their significant other is with the sex. Their is also an increasing number of women who are saying the are dissatisfied with the sex in their relationship and is leading to more and more women being unfaithful. The fact is that sex is human nature and just because in past decades it was unacceptable for women to express dissatisfaction with sex between their significant other, does not mean women have not been feeling the same way as men do about their sex lives.
God I feel like you are from the 1920s when most women stayed at home while the men provided for their families but now most women work, my mother did and still does she made sacrifices in her career so my dad could get his PhD. My current boyfriend and I have been dating for 2yrs and I am the one who is not wanting to rush things and is not ready to get married because I am in my second year of medical school and do not know where I will want to go for my residency, while he is an working as an entry level CPA. So in the long run I will most likely make more money then he will which is okay with me. In my opinion how much someone makes should not be a deciding factor for marriage. I also think if you love someone and want to get married but require a prenuptial agree meant is just acknowledging the fact that you know the relationship will not work and will end in divorce, so you probably should not get married to begin with. Before him I dated a guy who actually wanted to be the provider and talked to me about marriage, I ended the relationship because he expressed how if we did get married and have kids he would want me to be a stay at home mom and there was no way in hell I would ever want to stay at home all day being bored out of my mind. I want to work because I want to feel like I am doing something important with my life and be able to support myself. I do not want to have to worry that if I get married and it ends in divorce I will be S**T out of luck.
I am NOT one of those bitter feminist who feel that I have to prove that I am just as good at everything a man is because the fact is I am not. Everyone is different with different strengths. There are many things people can do better than me but I can also do somethings better than other individuals. I just want to point out how naive you were sounding and to remind you it is the 21st century. A lot of women can support themselves and that women have just as much to lose by getting married.
“I would never have children unless I am married because when all is said and done it is the woman who is usually gets stuck with the children.”
You’re so full of shit. To this day, I have seen 23 divorces since my birth and each one ends the same way. The guy may want the kids, but he won’t get them! Why? Because the state thinks that the kids will be raised better if they’re with the mother. And if you feel that you’ll just get “stuck” with the kids, then fuck you lady! You don’t need kids anyways. After all, you run the risk of being “stuck” with a burden! Congrats by the way on sounding like a total bitch.
What do women have to lose from a divorce? There are so many “factors” in divorces that really don’t mean shit anyways. The state always sees in favor of the woman because they view her as the weaker and less capable sex. Don’t believe me? Well you’re lying to yourself then. Let’s start with the kid factor. Not only do the women get the children because “it’s better for them,” but they get child support as well. Even if the woman is completely capable of raising the children on her own, like a doctor for instance, she will still get child support. Why? Because she’s a WOMAN. Go ahead and say “the men are obligated to help support their children.” But what about the women? Are those not OBLIGATED? My older brother paid child support to his ex wife for their daughter until he got custody of her. Child support is supposed to be paid each month until the child is 18. His daughter is only 13 and he’s paid child support since she was 3.
Now that he has custody of her, her mother isn’t being forced to pay child support. Why? The state says that she doesn’t have to pay it. I want to know why. Why is it that she is NOT OBLIGATED to provide for her FLESH AND BLOOD?
Now what about the pre-nup? Even if you sign one and she doesn’t get your money, she’s gonna take all she can. Women are much more brutal than men when it comes to stuff like this. Why? I believe it’s because men have more honor and women just want to spite them any way they can. The woman is gonna take whatever she can get, wether she wants it or not. It’s true, really. Like I said, I’ve seen 23 divorces. The court will grant her to good vehicle (the one HE paid for), the house (the one HE paid for), she’ll get HIS family heirlooms and the precious things that his mother gave to him before she passed away and the furniture (that HE probably paid for).
So what is it that she loses? Women shun divorced men because they’re going out and partying instead of feeling sorry for themselves. If the woman hadn’t of been such a bitch and let the man take the kids, she’d be at that same bar gettin’ hit on every five minutes because she took that ring off and I bet she won’t even mention her kids until she’s been with the guy four or five times.
I’m short on time or I’d keep ranting. Bye!